Drawing a Dialogue, Episode 2: History of High Culture and Gatekeeping in “The Arts”

Drawing a Dialogue is a podcast discussing comics in historical + educational contexts by Cathy G. Johnson and e jackson.

Episode 2: Cathy + e talk about the evolution of high culture, Clement Greenberg (that guy!), how the Arts keeps the average person at arm’s length, and how comics can combat it.

Contact: drawingadialogue@gmail.com, Twitter

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Artwork by e jackson.

Artwork by e jackson.

Episode Citation (chronologically as mentioned in podcast):

  • Greco-Roman academic traditions, advent of the printing press, etc: Norman Rockwell Museum
  • Matthew Arnold - Culture and Anarchy - Britannica
  • "Decorative Arts" - Link
  • Clement Greenberg, 1939, Avant-Garde and Kitsch - PDF
  • Clement Greenberg on Pop Art - YouTube
  • Arthur Danto, The Artworld - PDF
  • Simon Grennan - Image & Narrative
  • International Art English (IAE) - Triple Canopy
  • "Art museum membership" - Comiskey, D. S. (2016). “Drawing Conclusions.” Indianapolis Monthly, 40(2), 58.
  • "Diamond Comic Distributors, 268% growth" - Miller, J. J. (n.d.). Comichron: Yearly Rankings for Comic Book Sales - Comichron
  • MacDonald, H. (2013). How Graphic Novels Became the Hottest Section in the Library. Publishers Weekly, 260(18), 20-25 - Publishers Weekly
  • "Reading is a social activity" - Knoester, M. (2009). Inquiry into urban adolescent independent reading habits: Can Gee’s theory of Discourses provide insight? Journal of Adolescent & Adult Literacy, 52(8), 676-85.
  • Beaty, B. (2012). Comics Versus Art. Toronto : University of Toronto Press, c2012.
  • Brunetti, I. (2011). Cartooning: Philosophy and Practice. New Haven, CT: Yale University Press.
  • Adams, J. (1999). “Of Mice and Manga: Comics and Graphic Novels in Art Education.” Journal Of Art & Design Education, 18(1).
  • Malchiodi, C. A. (1998). Understanding Children’s Drawings. New York, NY: The Guilford Press.
  • Bayles, D., & Orland, T. (1993). Art & Fear: Observations on the Perils (and Rewards) of Artmaking
  • Erin La Cour, Comics as a Minor Literature - Image & Narrative

Further reading:

  • Tip of the Tongue by Vincenzo Latronico (response to IAE hypothesis) - Frieze

What are we reading?

  • Universal Harvester by John Darnielle
  • Boku no Hīrō Akademia (My Hero Academia) by Kōhei Horikoshi

Drawing a Dialogue, Episode 1: Comics Defined + The “Reluctant Reader” Ethos

Drawing a Dialogue is a podcast discussing comics in historical + educational contexts by Cathy G. Johnson and e jackson.

Episode 1: Introduction episode! Cathy + e talk about how comics have been defined throughout history, how + why comics were adopted into English classrooms, + the “reluctant reader” idea.

Email us at: drawingadialogue@gmail.com

Follow us at: @drawadialogue on Twitter

Subscribe on: iTunes, or any podcast app you may use!

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Episode Citation (chronologically as mentioned in podcast):

  • Franny Howes - UFL
  • Rodolphe Töpffer - UFL + Dartmouth
  • Martin Sheridan, Colton Waugh + "The Yellow Kid" - Comics Vs. Art by Bart Beaty, full citation below.
  • Scott McCloud - Understanding Comics, HarperPerennial, 1994
  • Depression-era comics history - Petersen, R. S. (2011). Comics, Manga, and Graphic Novels: A History of Graphic Narratives. Santa Barbara, CA: Praeger.
  • Beaty, B. (2012). Comics Versus Art. Toronto : University of Toronto Press, c2012.
  • Maughan, S. (2016). Graphic Novels Surge in the Educational Market. Publishers Weekly, 263(34), 22.
  • L. Snyder, personal communication, January 20, 2017
  • Gallo, D. R. (2001). How Classics Create an Aliterate Society. The English Journal, 90(3), 33-39. doi:10.2307/821305
  • "Adolescent reading habits" - Knoester, M. (2009). Inquiry into urban adolescent independent reading habits: Can Gee’s theory of Discourses provide insight? Journal of Adolescent & Adult Literacy, 52(8), 676-85.
  • "14%" - Slater, D. (2016, September). The uncomfortable truth about children’s books. Mother Jones
  • Bishop, R. S. Mirrors, Windows, and Sliding Glass Doors. (Reprinted from Perspectives: Choosing and Using Books for the Classroom. Vo. 6, no. 3. Summer 1990.)
  • Tim Smyth, "Overcoming Obstacles," published in BookShelf magazine, issue #23, Summer 2017
  • Franny Howes quoted again (see above)

Further Reading:

  • Image&Narrative Vol 17, Number 4 Comics in Art/Art in Comics - Link

 

In The Classroom - Spring Break!

Every Spring Break I get to teach a one-day workshop with students ages 6-13. This community center time is a great opportunity for students to explore creativity outside of school hours. We focus on the joys of cartooning, and everyone leaves the class with finished collaborative projects, their own comic stories, and lots of ideas for the future! -Cathy G.

Students playing a favorite drawing game borrowed from the Providence Comics Consortium workbook, "Food Chain!"

Students playing a favorite drawing game borrowed from the Providence Comics Consortium workbook, "Food Chain!"

A teen student carefully inks and colors her comic, which is a social commentary on beauty standards.

A teen student carefully inks and colors her comic, which is a social commentary on beauty standards.

Students use their sketchbooks and worksheets to prep for their final stories.

Students use their sketchbooks and worksheets to prep for their final stories.

I wanted to finish this blog post with this awesome two-page story by a young student (click the images to view larger!). Here are some questions to mull over when reading other people's art:

  1. What are the visual elements of this story? (colors, characters, environment)
  2. What are the words used alongside the visuals? How do the words add to the story?
  3. What are the emotions of this story? Is there one mood, or does the mood change?
  4. What do you see when you absorb all these elements together? (visuals + words + mood)